SOCAN loses against Cdn ISPs
p2pnet.net News:- If somebody robs your store, and drives away in a Chevrolet, you should be able to sue General Motors. This is the absurd ‘logic’ behind a case going to the Supreme Court …
That was how a 2003 Montreal Gazette editorial described an attempt by Canada’s SOCAN (Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada) to tax Canadian ISPs by up to 10% of their income, “simply because some clients of those ISPs sometimes steal music by downloading”.
However, it’s not going to happen, Canada’s Supreme Court says in a unanimous decision.
ISPs are “intermediaries” who aren’t bound by Canadian copyright legislation, the court ruled.
Nor is this the first time SOCAN, the Canadian copyright collective for the public performance of musical works, administers the performing rights of composers, lyricists, songwriters and their publishers, has tried it on.
It has already asked the Copyright Board of Canada to impose a royalty on Canadian ISPs. But the board ruled ISPs should be granted an exemption because they are, like telephone companies, a carrier or transmitter of the music files.
SOCAN also wanted health care practitioners to cough up every time they played music for their patients.
“Not only is it the right thing to do, but it’s also the lawful thing to do, to pick up a licence for what amounts to a mere few pennies a day,” said SOCAN ceo Andre LeBel.
“This was a money grab,” said Dr Jack Cotrell of the Canadian Dental Association.
This latest attempt was ridiculous but as the Washington Post points out here, it was “closely watched abroad because of the international implications for the computer and music industries,” going on:
“SOCAN’s effort contrasted with the legal route taken by the recording industry in the United States, where the usual tactic has been to sue individual file-sharing services and customers who download music. The Recording Industry Association of America has launched about 2,000 [almost 3,500, actually] lawsuits against file swappers since last year. The RIAA has settled hundreds of those cases, generally for a few thousand dollars each.
“The attempt to collect instead from service providers was significant because they provide an easier target for litigation than tracking down a myriad of individual Web sites and customers.”
The Big Five record labels want to use their CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association) to sue Canadian file sharers in the same way the RIAA sues Americans. However, it can’t get started without first finding a way to identify people it claims have swapped unauthorised music files. But it can’t do that without a court order compelling Canadian ISPs to reveal client names - and its recent bid to force five Canadian ISPs to do exactly that, failed.
Justice Konrad von Finckenstein decided, “No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorised the reproduction of sound recordings. They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer user(s) via a P2P service.”
Go here for:
Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada
v
Canadian Association of Internet Providers
Canadian Association of Internet Providers,
Canadian Cable Television Association,
Bell ExpressVu,
Telus Communications Inc,
Bell Canada, Aliant Inc
and
MTS Communications Inc. Appellants/Respondents on cross-appeal
v
Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada Respondent/Appellant on cross-appeal
and
Internet Commerce Coalition, European
Telecommunications Network Operators’ Association,
European Internet Service Providers’ Association,
Australian Internet Industry Association,
TelecomServices Association,
U.S. Internet Industry Association,
Canadian Recording Industry Association and
International Federation of Phonogram Industry Interveners
Indexed as: Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada v. Canadian Association of Internet Providers





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June 30th, 2004 at 7:21 pm
In the past, Libral Heritage Minister Helene Chalifour, had been vocal about trying to get legislation passed to ban filesharing in Canada. Most notably
Well, in the election, she lost her seat to Roger Clavet of the Bloc Quebecois. Although Prime Minister Martin was also backing banning filesharing, it was Helene Chalifour who really piloted the offense.
With a new minority government, I can’t even picture the topic of filesharing going anywhere fast. It’s simply not a large political issue. There are more important things to say the least. Also, they’ll be a lot of political debate before anything is passed.
Not to mention Jack Layton is pro-filesharing and I don’t see the Bloc Quebecois (a pretty socialist Quebec party) approving big corporations to sue Canadian citizens. Unless the Librals ally with the conservatives on this one (very unlikely!), filesharing’s here to stay in Canada.
So all in all, YAY for Canada! Keep on Sharing.
June 30th, 2004 at 7:34 pm
excellent observations and good to hear about that pious b#$% losing her seat.
indeed with a minority gov legislation is passed much slower and suffers extraordinary scrutiny.
June 30th, 2004 at 8:03 pm
I was happy to see the Heritage Minister lose. However, you might be surprised to know what the parties said about the issue before the election. The BQ and the NDP are most aggressively in support of ratifying the WIPO Copyright treaties (ie. putting an end to file sharing)! The Liberals aren’t so keen and the Conservatives didn’t say anything. See www.cippic.ca election issues and M. Geist’s comments re: same.
July 1st, 2004 at 12:20 am
That’s right. But Martin is still there and he is the one who said the music industry is part of Canada’s sovereignty. God! I stil can’t believe he actually said that!
July 1st, 2004 at 6:05 am
yah but even with the NDP they only hold 154 seats, they’ll need someone from the Bloc or Conservatives to pass new legislation.
Plus remember, Martin bends like a willow to whatever seems to gain him popularity, and says what he thinks the audience wnats to hear. It’ll be interesting to see his priorities or lack thereof.
July 2nd, 2004 at 7:57 am
Thank goodness the NDP have like what was it 18 or 19 seats, lets see vrazy Jack pass his own legislation…lol and like the Bloc will have any hope nationally, ha. The original point stands even stronger now that you say the only only party with any hiope actually doesnt wnat to move on that! O’Canada….
July 4th, 2004 at 2:02 am
Canada : A country with some sanity left in it!!!!!
July 17th, 2004 at 7:03 pm
Jack Layton isn’t “pro file sharing” see:
http://www.cippic.ca/uploads/images/107/NDPRESPONSE.pdf
“Any copyright legislation needs to balance the rights of creators, users and distributors. Creators must be fairly compensated for their work, and only a creator can waive that right. At the same time, users need fair access, in order to encourage a vital Canadian culture.”
Think he mentions something about enacting the WIPO into law. If that is the case kiss p2p “goodbye” since the WIPO specifically gives “make available” rights to the holder of the copyright …. somehow I cant see Sony saying “it’s ok, download more …”