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p2p news / p2pnet: I was reading an article on the web about how SunnComm used public newsgroups to request assistance in the development of their MediaMax copy protection software, and noticed the SunnComm person requesting help was named Ken Fagan, which reminded me of one of the many unethical, if not fraudulent, incidents that are characteristic of the modus operandi of SunnComm International.
Following the BMG Sony debacle of the last few weeks, most people should be familiar with the contemptuous way SunnComm treats the buyer of a MediaMax protected CD, installing the MediaMax software on to the user’s computer, even if the End User License Agreement is declined. However, it’s not just CD buyers whom SunnComm treats with contempt: it’s also its investors and the Ken Fagan incident detailed below is but one of many examples.
SunnComm had a feature on its web site called “Ask The President” (AskThePrez), which has been renamed Ask SunnComm. This is supposed to be an informal Q&A where SunnComm president Peter Jacobs answers questions from investors and others. Those who follow it know AskThePrez is mainly used for blatant pumping of the company stock and most of the earlier Q&As have been deleted because they provided an embarrassing historical record of the many misstatements the company made to its investors.
However, with the assistance of a web archive tool called WaybackMachine, we’re able to see some of the deleted entries, including this response shown a series of Q&As from 2002 on SunnComm’s relationship with Microsoft.
A: Dear Mr. Hall,
I asked Microsoft to email me and tell me what they think of our relationship. Below please find a verbatim reply to your question. Because of its length I´ll endeavor to answer your additional questions in subsequent responses.
Thanks for writing,
Peter
Microsoft’s reply
From: Ken Cavelon (kencav@microsoft.com)
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:07 AM
To: Peter Jacobs
Subject: The Microsoft and SunnComm Relationship
Dear Peter;
Lately I have been getting inquiries from partners and the marketplace in general as to the quality and depth of the relationship between our companies and I want to take a moment to give some clarification.
SunnComm´s relationship with Microsoft is multi-faceted. Microsoft is committed to helping you and your people succeed in getting to market with your digital content copy protection technology. To this end we have focused support, people, technology and financial resources specifically on SunnComm. These resources include people throughout the company with the heaviest concentration in our Digital Media Division (DMD).
Within the DMD, Christina Calio, Business Development Manager, is specifically goaled on go to market strategies with partners including SunnComm. John Paddleford, Lead Program Manager heads a team that has been focused on creating technologies and extending the Windows Digital Media Platform for SunnComm, enabling you to create a more tightly integrated solution with our Digital Rights Management technologies. It is our hope that we have proven our commitment to you as a partner.
Additionally, we have marketing and PR people (Jennifer Baisch and Erin Cullen respectively) goaled on helping to partner better with SunnComm. Christina Calio has committed Business Investment Funds (BIF) to help you with your go to market strategies on multiple fronts. The efforts that the Digital Media Division are putting forth on your behalf go to the highest ranks within the group and are clearly on the radar of the division´s Corporate Vice President, Will Poole. You met Will on your recent trip to Washington DC when you each provided testimony in front of the House of Representatives.
SunnComm is one of a very limited number of partners admitted to the JDP for our next generation of Windows Media Player codenamed “Corona”. We think SunnComm is uniquely qualified so we have been happy to provide you with the earliest releases of the new player, development documentation and technical development assistance. Also, we are looking forward to your unique development of a “Secure Burn Plug-In” using your MediaMaker technology for the new player. This is a solution that we believe the marketplace will respond favorably to and will be truly the first of its kind.
Thank you for your efforts in furthering the Windows Media Platform, we here at Microsoft are excited about SunnComm´s recent breakthroughs and are looking forward to an excellent fall launch of each of our respective digital media solutions.
If you receive any additional inquiries as to the nature of our relationship, please feel free to send them my way and I will ensure that they are connected with the appropriate people within our company.
Ken Cavelon
Engagement Manager
Microsoft Services for ISV Partners
kencav@microsoft.com
( Direct: 425.704.5240
( Fax: 425.936.7329
Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
SAM-D/5526
Redmond, WA 98052-6399
Although the reply above comes from a Microsoft manager Ken Cavelon, when originally posted on that web page, the manager’s name was given as Ken Fagan. Unfortunately, the WaybackMachine only takes snapshots of web pages at infrequent intervals and the original was changed before the archive was made. Only the sender’s name and e-mail address were different to that shown above. The time stamp, the e-mail text and the contact details including job title and phone number were exactly the same as that shown above.
To say the least, getting such an endorsement from Microsoft was a big scoop for a small company trading on the penny stock boards, particularly one with no track record and with little if any revenue.
As you might expect, many investors were very excited by this. However, some of them remembered seeing the name Ken Fagan before and recalled that a SunnComm SEC filing submitted in April 2001 described a consulting agreement between SunnComm and this Ken Fagan.
Consulting Agreement
On August 18, 2000, we entered into a Consulting Agreement with Kenneth W. Fagan, whereby Mr. Fagan agreed to act as Special Advisor to the board of directors and a corporate consultant. The term of the agreement is one (1) year. We paid Mr. Fagan an initial payment of $2,500 upon the execution of the agreement. We also agreed to pay Mr. Fagan $2,000 per month during the term, along with 250,000 restricted shares of the Company’s common stock upon the execution of the agreement. Mr. Fagan has a right to earn up to 750,000 options at an exercise price of .22as follows: 34% to be issued upon the signing of three (3) licensing agreements with major software vendors ($25,000000 + in revenues) delivered by Mr. Fagan, and 66% to be issued upon the signing of a licensing agreement with a large independent software vendor (such as Oracle, Microsoft, etc.) delivered by Mr. Fagan. See Exhibit 10.17 for a copy of the Consulting Agreement.”
They also remembered that more than two years before, Ken Fagan used to post on the Raging Bull message board for SunnComm using the alias Illuvetar. His posts were unashamedly SunnComm stock pumps. Unfortunately, RB has removed all old posts, but here’s an example of one Illuvetar post .
“BUY BUY BUY!!! This could be a $30B Company (that’s right, a B!) in a matter of months!!!”
I’m including the link - not working now obviously - but available to the SEC should they wish to investigate this incident further and request RB produce the original - http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SUNX&read=533
In several posts during the second half of 2000, Illuvetar (his profile gave his e-mail as kfagan@microsoft.com) identified himself as a Microsoft employee and used his employment status with Microsoft to add credibility to his recommendations on SunnComm.
However, he never mentioned in those RB messages of that time his consulting agreement with SunnComm and even the most diligent of investors would have been unaware of it until eight or more months later when SunnComm submitted the above SEC filing.
Apart from the lack of disclosure in his posts, his consulting agreement with SunnComm would have represented a huge conflict of interest: he was employed by Microsoft at the time and one of his tasks with SunnComm was to be instrumental in signing contracts with large ISVs, with Microsoft specifically named.
After the endorsement of SunnComm by Microsoft’s Ken Fagan appeared on AskThePrez and was reproduced on Raging Bull’s SunnComm message board, the more astute investors called into question the credibility of the endorsement by alerting RB readers to the consulting agreement with SunnComm and Fagan’s posting history using the Illuvetar alias.
The AskThePrez Q&A was certainly unethical (since there was no disclosure of Fagan’s relationship) and possibly fraudulent. If the endorsement was genuine and approved by Microsoft, it should have been authored by someone other than Fagan.
Some posters decided to complain to the SEC and to Microsoft. One wrote an e-mail to Ken Fagan and although no satisfactory explanation was given for the incident, Fagan did reveal in his reply that he’d changed his name from Ken Fagan to Ken Cavallon. (Note: when SunnComm first changed the name showing in the AskThePrez Q&A from Fagan to his new name, they misspelled it “Cavelon” as shown above. It took two further attempts to get it right.
Although many suspected the name change might have a lot to do with the fact the whole event as detailed above was submitted to the SEC and to Microsoft, on August 1 Ken Fagan (now Cavallon) in a Raging Bull post gave this as the reason.
“And yes, I did change my name on August 1st, 2002. Wouldn’t you if your name was FAGan and you could? (My kids were sick of getting teased and I was sick of re-living it! So we took my mother’s maiden name!)”
Even accepting his explanation, it doesn’t account for him using the name Fagan in his e-mail to SunnComm which had the timestamp: Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:07 AM
So apart from SunnComm’s unethical, if not fraudulent, conduct demonstrated by this incident, one also should ask why they needed to get assistance from public newsgroups if, as the endorsement suggests, everyone at Microsoft were there just to help SunnComm?
Why was Fagan asking Windows Media questions in newgroups and not using the resources at Microsoft? Was he hiding his duplicitous conduct from Microsoft?
Although Illuvetar’s original RB posts from late 2000 are no longer available today, some posters did reproduce their contents in posts made following the AskThePrez incident, when they were still available. These are some samples:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=STEH&read=38979
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=STEH&read=39046
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=STEH&read=39053
Not only did Fagan pump SunnComm without disclosing his relationship with the company, but it also appears he was deliberately misleading. In this post he tries to give the impression he doesn’t know the CEO, Peter Jacobs.
“I also spoke with the new CEO (Peter?) and a couple of the others on the new management team and having some intimate knowledge of the software industry really makes me excited about this technology that they say works to copy protect digital music files….”
This came just two weeks before his contract commenced and he doesn’t know the ceo. Yet in his January 21, 2003, confession he tells us:
“Actually, the relationship at its very beginnings(beyond that of just licensee), goes back to August 18th, 2000 when I joined the Board of Advisors of SunnComm, Inc. (And actually I knew Peter before that, it is the roots of our long standing relationship that have brought these two companies together.) ”
Another example briefly worth mentioningcomes up on its 5th anniversary, December 14: the infamous PR piece they issued that described a $20M deal with a MAJOR PACIFIC RIM CD MANUFACTURER.
“SunnComm Inks $20+ Million Copy Protection Deal With Major Pacific Rim CD Manufacturer
PHOENIX–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Dec. 14, 2000–SunnComm Inc. finalized a seven-year (minimum) $20+ million dollar contract with Will-Shown Technology Co., LTD Taipei, Taiwan to provide audio copy protection for Will-Shown Manufacturing of audio compact discs………….”
That deal was a complete fabrication. There was no such company as Will-Shown. You can read about it here (it’s the third complaint, so search on Will-Shown to get to the start).
The SEC is aware of both of these incidents, but doesn’t appear to have taken any action.
The title of this article is taken from a comment of Peter Jacobs, President and CEO of SunnComm International. Answering a question on AskThePrez regarding Princeton graduate Alex Halderman’s document detailing weaknesses in MediaMax, he made this remark about Halderman:
“I think he’s had enough computer science classes. He needs some time in morality class.”
He denigrated Halderman because Halderman revealed the name of the hidden file MediaMax placed on the user’s PC along with instructions to remove it.
Many of the current lawsuits against Sony BMG are because MediaMax places this file on the users PC even if the user rejects the terms of the EULA and hides it to prevent its detection.
Astrid Cameron (pseudonym)
December 5th, 2005 at 11:51 am
Let the SEC alone! Fagan, SunnComm, and others will hang themselves soon enough. For now, let the SEC concentrate on all that Insider Trading going on in the hallowed halls of Congress! Senator Frist should not be allowed to get away with his shenanigans, and Mr. DeLay also deserves his share of attention.
Actually, I’m rather surprised that the SEC hasn’t JUMPED on this Fagan business, just to have an excuse to leave the “Honorable” Members of Congress alone and not cause any serious waves. I guess the problem, here, is a conflict of interest on the part of the Entertainment cartel. Should they sick the hounds on the men who write the laws they want, at the cost of bringing down the pillars and columns of the Greenback Temple on themselves?
Let’s face it, the Internet and everything implied by that far-reaching word, will be in good hands, because the honest people (that the dishonest cartels would like to label as criminals) will prevail. As mentioned in one of P2Pnet.net’s other articles this date, pertaining to Firefox, WE THE PEOPLE will rise up in all our righteous might and power and show these Robber Barons where to get off! To paraphrase F.D.R.: “We shall win the ultimate victory, so help us God!” (With apologies to all religions which have a different deity and to those individuals who have none at all).
December 5th, 2005 at 12:10 pm
No, the SEC needs to get the small fish too. That’s what scams like SunnComm rely on. They hope that because they are small, they can keep under the radar while the SEC goes after the Enrons.
Give the SEC more funds and screw the SunnComms too.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:44 pm
I’ve done some corporate searching on Peter Jacobs and Ken Fagan and have discovered that Kenneth W Fagan is registered as a member to a company that seems owned by Peter Jacobs. The company is Sunrise Communications.
Of the hundreds of thousands of people working for Microsoft, isn’t it a big coincidence that he of all people should have authored that email. A big coincidence - NOT. This is fraud, no two ways about it. SEC get off your butt and do something.
648187-85 DLLC INA OREGON 08-14-1998 08-01-2018 08-14-2002
Entity Name SUNRISE COMMUNICATIONS, L.L.C.
Type PPB PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS
Addr 1 12120 SW 72ND AVE
CSZ PORTLAND OR 97223 8645
Type AGT REGISTERED AGENT
Start Date 08-14-1998
Name PETER H JACOBS
Addr 1 14705 SW SUNRISE
CSZ TIGARD OR 97224
Type MAL MAILING ADDRESS
Addr 1 121230 SW 72ND AVE
CSZ PORTLAND OR 97223 8645
Type MEM MEMBER
Name PETER H JACOBS
Addr 1 8701 N STARLIN LANE
CSZ PHOENIX AZ 85028
Type MEM MEMBER
Name KENNETH W FAGAN
Addr 1 1959 11TH AVE W
CSZ SEATTLE WA 98119 2801
10-11-2002 ADMINISTRATIVE DISSOLUTION 10-11-2002 SYS
08-16-2002 NOTICE LATE ANNUAL 08-16-2002 SYS
05-28-2002 APPLICATION FOR REINSTATEMENT AMENDED 05-28-2002 FI
05-26-2000 INVOL DISSOLUTION 10-07-1999 EX
10-15-1999 INVOL DISSOLUTION 10-07-1999 SYS
08-20-1999 NOTICE 08-23-1999 SYS
08-14-1998 NEW FILING 08-14-1998 FI
January 4th, 2006 at 6:31 am
This is Ken Cavallon, fka Ken Fagan (Kenneth W Fagan). If anyone has questions about my former relationship with SunnComm, please feel free to email me directly (KenCavallon@MSN.com). I have NEVER hid from any inquiry about who I was or what my relationship was with any of the parties.
There are some points here that, when clarified will negate the vast majority of the tone of “Astrid’s” post. You be the judge of what’s accurate and what’s not. Remember, you are welcome to email me with inquiries any time you’d like KenCavallon@MSN.com.
Preamble:
I am no longer in any way related to SunnComm. Other than wishing Peter and his family a Happy Holiday season via email (to which he did not reply) I have not been in contact with anyone from SunnComm for the better part of two years. I no longer own any SunnComm or related company stock and I am responding here only in pursuit of the truth, because I believe the truth matters.
1. The email I sent to Peter Jacobs was cleared by the proper personnel at Microsoft. Everything in the email that I sent to Peter it is true. (Although I don’t remember there being a typo on my name when it was changed from Ken Fagan to Ken Cavallon) It was well known at Microsoft and within the industry that I had relationships with both. The relationship with SunnComm (in its previous form) predated my employment with Microsoft and was fully disclosed in my employment agreement with Microsoft.
2. The posts on Raging Bull that are reproduced here apparently have been doctored (apparently by HPOBET) as I can’t imagine why I would have put that question mark in the parenthesis - or else it was a simple typo - don’t read too much into it.
3. Any reasonable person (defined as those without an aggressive agenda) would recognize that I have never anywhere else ever tried to hide my identity (hence the Illuvetar profile showing my Microsoft email address) or my knowledge of Peter and his team.
4. Early in the Summer of 2000 Peter asked me if I could help him. I did what I could and always intended to do so with the highest integrity.
5. The requests of help to the message boards was part of an internal Microsoft initiative to help our developer community get answers out there. At the time it was general practice for employees in our group to do so so that all developers at large could get the benefit of the answers. I’m not sure it was a good way of going about it and don’t remember the initiative lasting very long… it was just easier to pick up the phone or send an internal email to get help which is what most (including myself) ended up doing.
6. As far as the “Buy Buy Buy” post goes… I was excited, as a personal investor I was amped about the company/technology and its potential and bought and sold much of it over the next few years. I no longer own any SunnComm or MediaMax or related company shares. Now that I have a little more maturity (I’ll be forty this February 2nd - feel free to send me a (nice) birthday present!) I guess that $30B was a stupid number. I was genuinely EXCITED!
7. The biggest error was made by the then CFO at SunnComm who included in the later to be retracted SEC filing that I had entered into a “Consulting Agreement” with SunnComm. This was a mis-characterization of the relationship that in reality entailed my appointment to their Board of Advisors.
8. I have spent WAY too much time on this, but in the interest of the truth, I felt I must invest (it happens about once a year!) in setting wrongs right.
9. Just email me… KenCavallon@MSN.com and I’ll be more than happy to talk with you about what transpired in my relationship with SunnComm
10. I wonder what “Astrid’s” motivation is in digging up this ancient history? Hasn’t this been hashed enough? Haven’t I already answered these basic assertions already? Astrid, please recant your inference that anything I did was fraudulent. I do not derserve it.
January 4th, 2006 at 6:39 am
After I posted the original reply (above) I realized that anyone who REALLY wanted answers could have easily emailed me. Just Google “Ken Cavallon” and you’d have already found my email address… I look forward to hearing from anyone who has questions…
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is Ken Cavallon, fka Ken Fagan (Kenneth W Fagan). If anyone has questions about my former relationship with SunnComm or Microsoft, please feel free to email me directly (KenCavallon@MSN.com). I have NEVER hid from any inquiry about who I was or what my relationship was with any of the parties I worked with or for in the past.
There are some points here that, when clarified will negate the vast majority of the tone of “Astrid’s” post. You be the judge of what’s accurate and what’s not. Remember, you are welcome to email me with inquiries any time you’d like KenCavallon@MSN.com.
Preamble:
I am no longer in any way related to SunnComm. Other than wishing Peter and his family a Happy Holiday season via email (to which he did not reply) I have not been in contact with anyone from SunnComm for the better part of two years. I no longer own any SunnComm or related company stock and I am responding here only in pursuit of the truth, because I believe the truth matters.
1. The email I sent to Peter Jacobs was cleared by the proper personnel at Microsoft. Everything in the email that I sent to Peter it is true. (Although I don’t remember there being a typo on my name when it was changed from Ken Fagan to Ken Cavallon) It was well known at Microsoft and within the industry that I had relationships with both. The relationship with SunnComm (in its previous form) predated my employment with Microsoft and was fully disclosed in my employment agreement with Microsoft.
2. The posts on Raging Bull that are reproduced here apparently have been doctored (apparently by HPOBET) as I can’t imagine why I would have put that question mark in the parenthesis - or else it was a simple typo - don’t read too much into it.
3. Any reasonable person (defined as those without an aggressive agenda) would recognize that I have never anywhere else ever tried to hide my identity (hence the Illuvetar profile showing my Microsoft email address) or my knowledge of Peter and his team.
4. Early in the Summer of 2000 Peter asked me if I could help him. I did what I could and always intended to do so with the highest integrity.
5. The requests of help to the message boards was part of an internal Microsoft initiative to help our developer community get answers out there. At the time it was general practice for employees in our group to do so so that all developers at large could get the benefit of the answers. I’m not sure it was a good way of going about it and don’t remember the initiative lasting very long… it was just easier to pick up the phone or send an internal email to get help which is what most (including myself) ended up doing.
6. As far as the “Buy Buy Buy” post goes… I was excited, as a personal investor I was amped about the company/technology and its potential and bought and sold much of it over the next few years. I no longer own any SunnComm or MediaMax or related company shares. Now that I have a little more maturity (I’ll be forty this February 2nd - feel free to send me a (nice) birthday present!) I guess that $30B was a stupid number. I was genuinely EXCITED!
7. The biggest error was made by the then CFO at SunnComm who included in the later to be retracted SEC filing that I had entered into a “Consulting Agreement” with SunnComm. This was a mis-characterization of the relationship that in reality entailed my appointment to their Board of Advisors.
8. I have spent WAY too much time on this, but in the interest of the truth, I felt I must invest (it happens about once a year!) in setting wrongs right.
9. Just email me… KenCavallon@MSN.com and I’ll be more than happy to talk with you about what transpired in my relationship with SunnComm
10. I wonder what “Astrid’s” motivation is in digging up this ancient history? Hasn’t this been hashed enough? Haven’t I already answered these basic assertions already? Astrid, I do not appreciate your slander in presenting my actions as fraudulent. Please recant.
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“1. The email I sent to Peter Jacobs was cleared by the proper personnel at Microsoft. Everything in the email that I sent to Peter it is true. (Although I don’t remember there being a typo on my name when it was changed from Ken Fagan to Ken Cavallon)”
Having worked for Microsoft for 20 years, I can assure you that no one at Microsoft would ever endorse such a letter. We at Microsoft do not endorse other companies in the manner of that e-mail, as we cannot in any way control what those companies do. To give you an example, your e-mail stated:
“Also, we are looking forward to your unique development of a “Secure Burn Plug-In” using your MediaMaker technology for the new player. This is a solution that we believe the marketplace will respond favorably to and will be truly the first of its kind.
Thank you for your efforts in furthering the Windows Media Platform, we here at Microsoft are excited about SunnComm´s recent breakthroughs and are looking forward to an excellent fall launch of each of our respective digital media solutions.”
That statement could be taken by investors in SunnComm as an endorsement of SunnComm and in particular an endorsement of the marketability and potential profitability of SunnComm’s products. This would expose Microsoft to litigation from SunnComm investors if the products were unsuccessful and they could prove that their purchasing decision was influenced by that statement. We would not expose ourselves to such risk.
Suffice to say that the Secure Burn Plug-In product never materialized and the market is unaware of any breakthroughs from SunnComm. I note the share price is currently sitting at under $0.003 and the company’s marketing division MediaMax Technology, which is the sole source of revenue to SunnComm, has not recorded any revenue for the past year.
I also note that given the clear acknowledgement in your reply to the article of your long relationship with SunnComm outside of Microsoft, both as an investor and advisor to the board, that you do not even express any concern that the e-mail was made public without disclosing that relationship. Clearly you lack even the most basic of business ethics. I also note that even though you changed your name prior to sending that e-mail, you still used your old name on the e-mail.
I have checked with our legal department and can confirm that they would under no circumstances allow such a letter to be sent to a partner for public consumption and no manager would clear such a letter without first checking with Legal.
You reply is just as fraudulent as your activities with SunnComm and I intend to raise the matter with personnel, as your actions cast a slur on the whole company.
February 13th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Ken Cavallon, fka Ken Fagan (Kenneth W Fagan), you are a lying SOB
“7. The biggest error was made by the then CFO at SunnComm who included in the later to be retracted SEC filing that I had entered into a “Consulting Agreement” with SunnComm. This was a mis-characterization of the relationship that in reality entailed my appointment to their Board of Advisors.”
So what is this then?
Sample Business Contracts
CONSULTING AGREEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT, made this 18TH day of August, 2000 by and between: SunnComm
Inc., 668 North 44th Street Suite 220 Phoenix, AZ 85008 (hereinafter referred
to as the “Client”) and Kenneth W. Fagan, 408 West Galer Street, Seattle, WA
98119 (herein after referred to as “Consultant”)
WITNESSETH THAT:
WHEREAS, CLIENT requires broad corporate consulting services and desires to
engage CONSULTANT to provide such services, as an independent contractor, and
CONSULTANT is agreeable to contract to provide such services and the parties
hereto desire a written document formalizing and defining their relationship
and evidencing the terms and conditions of their agreement,
NOW THEREFORE, intending to be legally bound under the laws of the State of
Arizona, and in consideration of the mutual promises and covenants contained
herein after, the parties have agreed as follows:
1.0 APPOINTMENT
CLIENT hereby appoints CONSULTANT as a business corporate consultant….
etc. etc. etc.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto, intending to be legally bound,
have executed this Agreement.
FOR SUNNCOMM, INC. FOR: KENNETH W. FAGAN
By: /s/ Peter H. Jacobs By: /s/ Kenneth W. Fagan
————————– ——————————
Peter H. Jacobs, President Kenneth W. Fagan, Individually
http://contracts.onecle.com/sunncomm/fagan.consult.2000.08.18.shtml
Have a nice day
M. Riggs Jr.
April 9th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
As a former partner in an Advertising agency with Ken Fagan, I can assure you he is most likely lying. The best thing you can do is pursue your issues to the fullest and get his ass kicked out of Microsoft as soon as humanly possible. He has done serious monetary damage before (with me ONLY $250,000.00) but with the money in Microsoft…oh my god.
atthelake2372@sbcglobal.net
April 9th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Again, he is a dangerous slime ball. If he was truly intelligent could really wreck havoc and be a menace to all. Has never really done an honest day’s work in his life—at least when I knew him. I would suspect some things never change.
atthelake2372@sbcglobal.com
P.S. It appears that my anonymity is shown as “anonymous coward” in the hread, I assure you I am anything but—Ijust don’t have the time for this anymore…
April 9th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Relationships are a hard thing to cover up:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1997_May_6/ai_19378692
atthelake2372@sbcglobal.com